The rich wood stock is carved to fit the arm and the eye for smooth, clean shooting. This is a job for an airgunsmith. Yes, it is blurry, but you dont align it in the traditional sense. thank you for your time. Thats called follow-through, and its important with all guns. GENLTLY tap the end of the screwdriver with a hammer forward (towards the front sight) about 5 times. Thanks again. should i worry about it? That isnt easy, but the BAM B26 is one solution, and the B40 is an even better one. While researching this product, I always look for the trends in the customer review. Hope to see you there.Mr B. Hi, I would like to rebuild my 1995 Benjamin 177 back to new myself and understand that Pyramid has the parts but the instructions are very, very poor. I was shooting with open sights. How does the Gamo Shadow 1000 compare to the 392 in accuracy with open sights(if u discount the fact that i dont know the correct way to hold and shoot springers)? A Carbon Fiber 88 cubic foor tank weighs only 20 pounds and will fill your gun many more times than the 80 cubic foot aluminum scuba tank. Thats why they dont mention it. I agree Crosman wadcutters are not doing well for you. They are the only ones in .22 that Pyramydair sells (as far as I can tell). Here are my last questions. When I can achieve this with my new springer, this upcoming hunting season will yeild a bountiful harvest of squirrel!! Testing the effects of my valve mods.Here's where you can get one, plus ammo and accessories: http://amzn.to/1Olyf16 Your observations deserve some follow-up. Pyramyd Air is the largest airgun store in America many times larger than all other airgun dealers combined. Smoothing it out. So .22 pellet is the favorite choice for pest eliminators and small game hunters. Longer shots will hit lower. And if I can actually pull it off. )knows almost nothing about guns, except how much fun they can be. PCP vs Spring Piston: Which one is better? So is this a good practice to follow? Fix your Benjamin or Sheridan pneumatic at home! i know that i will be able to pump up the gun, and i still dont want the co2 392, my mom is trying to get an izh 61 or benjamin 392 for me for Christmas (she found a Benjamin 392 but she couldnt see the pump handle! Do you have these problems? Ive got neighbors about 40 yards on either side of me, and they dont seem to mind the sound of my Quest 1000. Nod. No living much further away. Reply #2 on: November 06, 2009, 12:54:19 AM . 25-50 yds very effective. I shot at a pellet tin today (diameter 2.5) from 45 yards offhand with gamo hunters and only connected on 6 of 10. Had to get a special scope mount, which works great, but its annoying to not have attachment points built in. : I just became interested in air guns this past week. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The Webley Exocet is a spring gun, not a pump gun. Thanks B.B. Most of what I will say about the 347 (the .177-caliber version of the gun) also applies to the .22-caliber model 342. It is Spanish-made, but from what I hear, a cut above the rest. my home range is about 30 yards, so i wanted to see downrange, however if you think a peep sight would be better id follow your advise. Quality American airguns are still being made affordably!The bottom line with these two air rifles is that theyre out of the past, yet as modern as they have to be. its also a no go in the classifieds. if so, what do u do? thanks! I had just glanced at it, and with its short and stocky appearance I thought it was a shootgun until he picked it up to disuade a squirrel out of his garden. You should pump at least 3 pumps but no more than 8 pumps. Also, the fit of the receiver to the stock is a little loose; tightening of the screw did nothing to fix this. That being said, Im a scope fan and have found the intermount setup to be sturdy enough. In fact, thats what I do and my Sheridan Blue Streak was new in 1978. At first, I thought these pieces were soldered to the barrel/pump cylinder and would have to remain. How sensitive are those crossman B272 4 pc pre-mounts to movement? Look forward to many hours of fun with my new 392. Reviewed in the United States on June 1, 2022. This gun has a lot of potential to become your favorite gun for hours of fun with target shooting. Unable to add item to List. If you keep turning them, they will eventually wear out. Pumps easy. I uninstalled it and tilted it back a bit and installed it. I built a sturdy pellet trap of ply-wood, with ten, and twenty yards marked with international orange spray paint. I want to shoot crows in my backyard. Ive tried everything from turning the mount backwards and cantilevering it up with the scope-stop screww to shimming under one ring of the mount to compensate the difference, and still off a mile. The tension loosens as the elevation is lowered. Yesterday I disassembled the whole scope/mount and started over. .177 pellets are much cheaper. Expect a similar look, fit, and feel as the 397, but in a larger caliber size. (Im thinking maybe the 397 due to smaller pellet). Just shoot the gun with a pellet. Some time will elapse before the next window opens, showing all your finds. The Benjamin 392 Bolt Action Air Rifle hits the target very hard. Im gonna buy more, and ill be giving up on buying the peep sight for a while, too (Ill get around to it). I have a cabinet filled with dozens of tins of inaccurate pellets. I tell folks theyll get about two full 3,000 psi fills, then the next will be 2975, then 2925, 2850 and so on. etc.) Still, get the Pellgunoil and always store your rifle with a pump of air in it. I am considering, based on your posts, the 22SG, 392 or the blue/silver streak. Alternatively you can skip that and go right to it by typin in this site /manual/benjamin-sheridan. Perhaps I should dissasemble the whole thing and start from scratch. I know you said never to clean the Benjis,so dont get mad at me, but in my experience, Ive found that periodical (once a year is plenty) cleanning with a little, and I mean a drop of Kleen-Bore gun oil on the screw side a rifle mop will clean the leading build-up inside the barrel without getting any oil into the air valve hole. A 397 with good pellets will take a squirrel or rabbit at that range. The reason the B-Square mount doesnt get good reviews is because people dont install it correctly. More Info. If I were to buy (and I might) then I would like to buy one or two of each and test them out. Part Three. For more on the differences between .177 & .22 and which jobs they do best, see this post. The bolt doesnt hold in the closed position either, with a tendency to rotate half loose while handling the rifle. One other thing, this blog is almost 5 years old and very few people other than a core of volunteers, look at it. Even then the scope gets in the way of pumping. I believe you mean will it kill the animal without suffering? Careers. Even in 1976 some of the kids guns had the cheap plastic stocks while mine had the nice wooden stock. However, I am a little concerned about the noise level. Ive never had a problem with either mounts coming lose or anything. Would you be willing to do a review on the Steroid & bug buster combination? It installs easily and just about doubles the precision of your aim. I pulled it out and went to sight it in and my first five shots were all really tight, it is a little bit of a bear to get the last 2 pumps especially since I have been ussing my springers so long but I have found that for just plinking aroung 5 to 6 punps have been plenty. BB,I just got a Benjamin 397 primarily for pest control. Then I purchased a BSA classic scope from Wal-mart. Take it from someone who grew up behind the iron curtain, secretly watching John Wayne movies and dreaming of the open range. This is the best Air Rifle I have ever used. It's a reasonable price if you consider that all parts of this gun are made of genuine hardwood and metal. The Beeman silver bears, crows mags took more effort to insert, and I didnt like the lead shavings they left in the breech area after pushing them home. What would a dive shop charge to fill up the bottle. Yes, the power is lower and, yes, it varies with temperature. I was over a friends house and he had one of these Benjamin Sheridans proped against the door. Benjamin 392S .22-Caliber Bolt Action Variable Pump Air Rifle, Black. Ill try some more stuff. Thanks again, your are providing me quite an education. Im with you. Specs Manufacturer Benjamin Caliber .22 Velocity 685 fps Condition New Ammo Type Pellets Action Bolt-action Barrel Style Rifled If you are hitting low, you need to raise the rear of the scope. George PenaGeorge is a Texan who fixes American pneumatics. I dont see how the valve alignment could be screwed up by pumping without cocking. It has a transition-style pump, that attemps to transition from a front-pumper to an underlever. Im trying to determine if this would be a good investment for me. I sat on my stairs and rested my elbow on my knee. The groups are nice and tight, just in the wrong place. I think ill buy this first for plinking until i can force myself to save the money forthe benjamin 392. They are all very nice guns and are accurate enough to pot a cottontail rabbit at 35 yards with open sights. Thanks. Should I write my check out to Pyramyd Air Gun Mall? This gun is a great choice. I have a somewhat long wait-the JSBs are out of stock- but I will try to use up my Wadcutters before I get the pellets. Any thoughts or tips would be appreciated. However, I am having difficulty getting it sighted it. I never get a clear circular sight through it. This is called Kentucky windage. 1. Now the Benji really sounds like a piece of Americana I cannot miss . I recommend wadcutters in this rifle Gamo Match are good. Ill get pellgun oil somehow (i might order it if i have to). with those pellets. B.B.,I just purchased a Benjamin 397 as my first air gun. This airgun is the stuff legends are made of. LOLs Will using a heavier/tighter pellet like the Beemans and Gamos I mentionned break in the barrel faster? Just shoot the gun and dont let any of that bad stuff happen. Whats the difference between pellgunoil and weblube? I have come across my father-in-laws Benjamin Franklin H 39666. Go figure! The last ones are around 2300 psi and since the gun stops shooting consistently around 2000 to 2100, you arent getting as many shots with those final fills. I think that I might have to remove the rear sight in order to get a clear peep hole, but then again maybe not. The trigger guard was thinner and blued. With a good hit, your rifle is more than enouigh. And the old gun is slimmer than the new one. Adults only, please!The 392/397 is an adult-sized air rifle, though not overly long or heavy. Also, money isnt really an issue here, Im willing to pay a little more for better quality. Heavier mass takes more force to accelerate, which equals more time. General question: Looking to buy either the 392 or the 397, probably only to be used for target practice. the elevation screw is almost compleatley out of the hole in the sight. Is PCP gun the best How to choose the right Air Gun Caliber for your game? Just got it (fast, great service) and took it out tonight very happy! A Gamo Shadow would be as good as a 392, but they were recently recalled by Gamo. I found one maker (H & N) on this site who does make a 22 caliber round ball, but it is finished with a black graphite coating. I think this website and forum is honestly the best place on the net to discuss airguns. Good question. would i be able to take down larger birds like pheasents and quail with a non head shot? This is a job best left to a qualifies airgunsmith like Mac-1 or Bryan & Associates. (interesting little spring piston guns where the piston surrounds the barrel). The 39X series of guns are made primarily of brass, and soldered together. But the rewards will be good indeed! They seem to shoot forever with a minimum of attention and expense, unlike springers, PCP and Co2 guns.I put a low powered shotgun scope on my 392 but later went to a red dot sight as the red dot seemed to be just as accurate and was much quicker to use. I have stumbled upon them before, but i didnt really think id use them alot. Others of smaller stature or those like me developing artharitis in their upper body might try this method of pumping. There are no scope mounts that wrap about the entire pump tube. It was a mess, the nose of the bolt was bent at a 45 degree angle, the paint overspray was thick. One thing I am using this for some pest hunting so I need the 22cal. A long time ago I switched to flat-faced bullets for my smoke rifles after seeing the difference they make when hitting animals. This being the case I am considering mounting a bug buster 2 on my rifle to replace the williams peep. It would be cheaper to eliminate this swelling, but they keep it because it makes pumping easier. Thanks again, Thomas, /blog/2005/11/is-your-airgun-barrel-really-clean/. Just a hint for those that use this sight in low light, unscrewing the aperture to remove it will turn this sight into a ghost-ring! If I pump it 8 times or so and let it sit for two or three minutes until I fire, it loses all it's power. I am very happy I bought it and my wife should be too when I tell her next month Thanks for another winner AppleManiac, I have a Benjamin Model 112. That is not too much. You have been patient and have tried the sources I suggested. Copyright 2019 - Air Gun Maniac, Best Air Rifle Reviews & Buying Guides Air Gun Maniac, Best Air Rifles Under $200 Top 5 budget guns for, Synthetic vs Wood Stock: The Final Showdown Between Brunette And Blonde, Best Air Rifles for Pest Control Top 10 effective guns, The Bunny Buster: Best Air Rifle For Rabbits (Reviews and Buying, Best .22 Air Rifles Top 10 fantastic guns for the. Pumping action is hard for shooters with weak arms, Pumping action can be tedious experience at some points. Even if I cant find a good way to mount the scope Ill definately hang on to the gun. Fully adjustable rear sight. He spent a great deal of his childhood years around the Apache-Sitgreaves National Forest in Arizona. Could you suggest any repair shops in the vicinity of Oklahoma for these repairs? Also, try five pumps or six instead of the maximum. Which intermount is better for this rifle, the B-Square or the Air Venturi? The plastic appears to be very robust with the look of blued steel. I wish you could change the word verification on this system because its a real pain telling the difference between the lower case letters and the capitols. So lets just set that aside, if we can. Loosen one and tighten the other and the rear sight moves. I cant wait to shoot it, but i dont have any pellets yet, so i pumped the gun once (yep, its a little hard to pump, and i cant use my left hand, severed the tendon couple months ago), and set it in the corner of my room. Pyramids manual on the 392, which you directed me to, apparently added that info to the online manual and it wasnt well proof read because here is how the last sentence of the lateral directions reads: To make the pellet hit further right on the target, loosen the windage screw on the left side of the sight and tighten the windage screw on the left side of the sight and tighten the windage screw on the right side of the sight (Fig. It is vertically aligned with the reticle and the premiers are falling into the same hole every time. People love its beautiful fit and finish, reliability, durability, accuracy, and recoilless. The Benjamin 392 is an excellent choice for a reasonable price. If there is no significant difference in accuracy is there anything else I should consider (target knockdown power, etc) when making this choice? You have to get the 392! First of all, I have been using .22 Crosman Wadcutters. I shot about 100 premiers and 100 benjamin pellets through the 392. I was now getting 2 inch groupings! Then cock and shoot it again (no pellet) and listen to hear if any gas escapes. As long as you are buying used, there is a whole world of opportunity out there. The Benjamin 392 has a caliber of .22 (5.5 millimeters). and ive now got a bonus, if i buy the benjamin 392 and ten dollars worth of pellets i get eleven dollars off shipping!! Try my recommendation before doing anything else. I have not tried a 397 with an extra-heavy pellet. The Bug Buster 2 works with most one-inch two-piece scope rings. I ran out of pellets again and it might be a while before I get more. Hold on there BB, Im not sure what you mean by smoothing the bore. its a petty good idea how he did it.is he selling the kit he used to accomplished that,just wondering. I have a problem with my benjamin multi pump. Even though it is brass, it will take hundr4ds of thousands of rounds, as long as they are lead pellets and not anything that would damage a brass bore. It tops out at 850 f.p.s. Its not my place to say whether you can shoot in the house or not. George is at heligun1@msn.com or 512-863-2951. Benjamin 392 & 397. George Pena in TX. RE: Crosman 392 PA advice. Al it takes is one pump before you will know why I feel that way. Its accurate and inexpensive. B.B.Your last two paragraphs were interesting, I was all set to trade my old 312 (it needs some work on it, after all of these years) in on a new 392, it seems to be well liked, (the 392s) by the comments Ive read in this column. thx for ur help bb, i should have checked the site more thouroughly and saved u, me, and my parents the time. Series: 4 Piece: Model: Intermount: . Ive never tested one but I trust anything Webley makes in England. I have one and would like to put a Peep Sight on the rifle. Reviewed in the United States on February 25, 2023. I think its too light for a woodchuck or raccoon, but a perfect shot would work. A superb quality gas ram break barrel. ), if any. Does anyone have any details on just how to best remove the factory rear sight? .22 caliber 14.3 gr. I had a Crosman 111 pistol with a brass barrel from aound 1950-54 and it was a tackdriver. I did read up on the mount you suggested, but it didnt exactly get a 5 star review. Either of these two guys is perfect for your needs. A go-to solution for interior/exterior projects, COMMAND works on metal, masonry, vinyl, drywall, tile, PVC and much more. What should i do if i get a jammed pellet? Benjamin 392 doesnt have a scope rail to mount the scope. There are two variations of this gun. Warranty: 24 Months Manufacturer: Crosman. Not very powerful, but a true delight to shoot. My questions is this, whats the best way to clean these brass-barreled guns? Instead, our system considers things like how recent a review is and if the reviewer bought the item on Amazon. i was also wondering if thease pellets were any good, 1.http://www.sportsauthority.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2077747&cp=&fbn=Taxonomy%7CBB+Guns%2FAmmo&f=Taxonomy%2FTSA%2F2098726&fbc=1&kw=.22+ammo&parentPage=search, http://www.sportsauthority.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2077750&cp=&fbn=Taxonomy%7CBB+Guns%2FAmmo&f=Taxonomy%2FTSA%2F2098726&fbc=1&kw=.22+ammo&parentPage=search. MayberryDaysin the Great Smoky Mountains. The pellets were domed pellets, and when I opened the container, the pellets looked perfect. What is your take on the Crosman Sierra Pro break-barrel? 2 more photos This gun has a grooved brass barrel and is designed for accurate target shooting lead the pellet. There's also a front fiber optic post sight. Because if Im not mistaken, the LE is only meant to take a scope.-BCS. bb,to kill a raccoon should i use a heavy pellet and a head shot for an efficient and humane kill, or a predator pellet for penetration? Unfortunately did not store with a pump or 2 and Im afraid dirt and time have taken a toll. So far Ive just used oiled patches and quick-clean pellets. The bolt doesnt lock solidly like a firearm bolt does. The other two are spring guns that require a lot of shooting technique to use. It needs two-piece one-inch rings. Yes, store your gun with one pump of air. I was wondering what your recomendations would be on what cal to get either the .177 or the .22 I am trying to get rid of a couple blackbirds near my house. I know that breakbarrels do not bend when u break them, but what would a multipump do? At the first glance, the product images tell us that it has the same handsome, classic look. Then return the forearm to its original position to complete one pump. Thank you very much for your time.-Robert. Its just a slang term for inertia. .22 pellet is heavier and has alarger diameter than the .177 pellet. 1. . Then use an appropriate screw. , Copyright 1999-2022 Pyramyd Air. He is kind of a gun snob, so a regular cheap BB gun wasnt going to cut it. They did fall below target but Id expect that being slightly heavier that the crosmans. I did purchase and install the peep sight, but removed it to work with the open sights first. Can you place the muzzle of the springers on the ground and push down on the stock to break open and cock the gun? The intermount is designed specifically for this rifle, so the one you received must have a problem. Neither Walmart nor the BPS had the silicon chamber oil much less pellgun oil. Otherwise you can get it online here: Would you recommend using the Air Venturi Intermount with a Leapers 432 Mil Dot scope with the 397, or just the Crosman peep sights? I dont know that there is a typical sight-in distance for open sights, but here is what I do. So Anyone whos reading this, dont be so quick to be shooting my way, try it out, but dont just stick to someone elses technique. DISCONTINUED! The 3-9 will reach out farther with precision. For more on the in-depth comparison between synthetic and wood stock, see this post. Thanks for any insight you can provide. Just thought that I would let you know one of the things that is possible with the 392. The Benjamin 392 (along with the Benjamin 397) is the except to this rule though. Glad I asked! I bought a Benjamin 342 years ago for my father to control sparrows and starlings on his Purple Martin nesting boxes. I believe Trophys are H&N. I know because I have done it. It will take some time for what happens next. Then that same year with some new updates of Model C, it was relaunched as the 397 and 392. Anyways, I do have a questionThe bolt on my new 392 rotates freely instead of locking down. Its like a flintlock rifle that takes longer to get ready, so the shooter takes extra care with the shot. I have recently purchased a Benjamin Sheridan 392 and like Chris above am doing most of my shooting in the 15 to 20 yard range. There may be exceptions in a few stores, but the last time I looked in three different states, .177 was all I could find! The air is compressed when the piston moves rapidly forward, shoved by the mainspring. Most are British, though quite a few are Chinese. Im not sure if its because I am used to spring guns, but it is just too timeconsuming, and cumbersome for me. George is at heligun1@msn.com or 512-863-2951. :) Anyway I was wondering do you think a 15 year old male could easily pump this gun. This blog is independent from Pyramyd Air and I would have to do the same research as you to learn the answers. The holidays are coming, so maybe you could ask for some pellets then, plus a fellow your age should be able to figure out how to earn at least $20 a week, dont you think? After running the numbers, a 10.6 grain Kodiak in .177 at 1000 FPS has a higher FPE than a 15.8 grain JSB Diabolo in .22 at 685 FPS. Benjamin 392 PA +Mods Crosman 1322 +Mods Crosman 1400 Kral Puncher Breaker .177. ev-in-az. Thats a pain. This air rifle is definitely one that can train you to be a better shot. A 392 is probably not more accurate than a Powerline 1000, but it is much easier to shoot. You are asking about a major machining project. well my benjamin 392 came in the mail today. 22 bolt Action variable pump pellet air rifle features Monte Carlo styling, A durable all-weather synthetic stock and fore grip, rifled barrel and fully adjustable rear sight. After a week of doing my research, I decided that the Benjamin would be the most practical rifle for our needs. Therefore, having a brass barrel is a huge advantage that can make your gun last for years. Try the Beeman .20 caliber Field Target Special pellet. It has an angle bracket that screws into two screws to the side of the receiver of the 392/397, A standard Williams Peep sight with dove tail mounting will not easily adapt to the 392/397. Secondly, the pumping action is really hard and is not suitable for a person with weak arms. I now own a Gamo Shadow 1000, but Id rather have a good, pneumatic .22 for hunting purposes. Use a silicone chamber lube. It's reliable, sturdy, durable, has a high recoil, and can last for many years without much maintenance. I dont know their status right now. And dont fail to lubricate the pump head with Crosman Pellgunoil. How difficult would it be to pump the full 3000 pSI into the Talon and how long would it take? I also would like to know what pellets work the best with this gun and for pest shooting. It is also not very powerful, but it has a wonderful heritage behind it. I have pictures on my myspace if you want to check them out under the my pics album. what r ur opinions on this rifle like this? What were the pellets? An example of data being processed may be a unique identifier stored in a cookie. The 392 is the .22 caliber version of the gun, while the 397 is the .177. Currently I get about 1-1.5 groups at 20 yards with this set up using gamo hunters. The answer nis yes, with a good shot, it will do that. In its place, I ordered a Diana 48 in .22. Moreover, hardwood can be refinished easily at any time so it has a very long lifespan. Although this mount specifically does not say that its for the 397/392, Crosman makes both those rifle and the Blue Streak and there isnt much difference between them. Please help! Eeeeck! George Pena at heligun1@msn.com or 512-863-2951. 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